I can guarantee you that if you explain the current situation to the vast majority of Ventoy users who enrolled it in a Secure Boot environment, they will tell you that this is not what they expected at all and that what they want, once enrolled, is for Ventoy to only let through UEFI boot loaders that can be validated for Secure Boot and produce the expected Secure Boot warning for the ones that don't. Just like what is the case with Ventoy, I don't have much of an issue with having some leeway, on account that implementing proper signature validation requires some effort, during which unsigned bootloaders may be accepted, so as not inconvenience users too much. And it's possible that the UEFI specs went as far as specifying that specific aspects of the platform security, such as disk encryption through TPM, should only be available if Secure Boot is enabled. Ventoy should only allow the execution of Secure Boot signed executables when Secure Boot is enabled, Microsoft's official Secure Boot signing requirements. using the direct ISO download method on MS website. Then your life is simplified to Persistence management while each of the 2 (Ventoy or SG2D) provide the ability to boot Windows if it is installed on any local . Go to This PC in the File Explorer, then open the drive where you installed Ventoy. Thanks very much for proposing this great OS , tested and added to report. Also, what GRUB theme are you using? Ventoy can boot any wim file and inject any user code into it. Yes. if you want can you test this too :) On the other hand, I'm pretty sure that, if you have a Secure Boot capable system, then firmware manufacturers might add a condition that you can only use TPM-based encryption if you also have Secure Boot enabled, as this can help reduce attack vectors against the TPM (by preventing execution of arbitrary code at the early UEFI boot stage, which may make poking around the TPM easier if it has a vulnerability). If it fails to do that, then you have created a major security problem, no matter how you look at it. How to mount the ISO partition in Linux after boot ? Some commands in Ventoy grub can modify the contents of the ISO and must be disabled for users to use on their own under secure boot. Error message: XP predated thumbdrives big enough to hold a whole CD image, and indeed widespread use of USB thumb drives in general. Open Rufus and select the USB flash drive under "Device" and select Extended Windows 11 Installation under Image option. slax 15.0 boots Use UltraISO for example and open Minitool.iso 4. Follow the guide below to quickly find a solution. Minor one: when you try to start unsigned .efi executable, error message is shown for a very brief time and quickly disappears. Windows 10 32bit only support IA32 efi, your machine may be x86_64 uefi (amd64 uefi), so this distro can't boot and will show this message. Secure Boot is supported since Ventoy-1.0.07, please use the latest version and see the Notes. Maybe I can provide 2 options for the user in the install program or by plugin. And they can boot well when secure boot is enabled, because they use bootmgr.efi directly from Windows iso. My guesd is it does not. ParagonMounter But, just like GRUB, I assert that this matter needs to be treated as a bug that warrants fixing, which is the reason I created this issue in the first place. Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community. my pleasure and gladly happen :) If a user is booting a lot of unsigned bootloaders with Secure Boot enabled, they clearly should disable Secure Boot in their settings, because, for what they are doing, it is pretty much pointless. preloader-for-ventoy-prerelease-1.0.40.zip, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1401532, [issue]: Instead of dm-patch, consider a more secure and upstreamable solution that does not do kernel taint. Format Ext4 in Linux: sudo mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 Help !!!!!!! Ventoy doesn't load the kernel directly inside the ISO file(e.g. privacy statement. Maybe we should just ask the user 'This file is not signed by Microsoft for 'Secure Boot' - do you still wish to boot from it?' I didn't expect this folder to be an issue. If you do not see a massive security problem with that, and especially if you are happy to enrol the current version of Ventoy for Secure Boot, without realizing that it actually defeats the whole point of Secure Boot because it can then be used to bypass Secure Boot altogether, then I will suggest that you spend some time reading into trust chains. If someone has physical access to a system and that system is enabled to boot from a USB drive, then all they need to do is boot to an OS such as Ubuntu or WindowsPE or WindowsToGo from that USB drive (these OS's are all signed and so will Secure boot). @DocAciD I don't have a Lenovo, ThinkPad or a ThinkCentre, Getting the same on TinyCoreLiInux (CorePlus), URL; http://tinycorelinux.net/downloads.html, The ISO must be UEFI-bootable and have a UEFI64 boot file \EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI So, I'm trying to install Arch, but after selecting Arch from Ventoy I keep getting told that "No Bootfile found for UEFI! (Haswell Processor) Tested in Memdisk and normal mode with 1.0.08b2. (I updated to the latest version of Ventoy). You can put a file with name .ventoyignore in the specific directory. Ventoy up to 1.0.12 used the /dev/mapper/ventoy approach to boot. So, yeah, if you have access to to the hardware, then Secure Boot, TPM or whatever security measure you currently have on consumer-grade products, is pretty much useless because, as long as you can swap hardware components around, or even touch the hardware (to glitch the RAM for instance), then unless the TPM comes with an X-Ray machine that can scan and compare hardware components, you're going to have a very hard time plugging all the many holes through which a dedicated attacker can gain access to your data. puedes usar las particiones gpt o mbr. i was test in VMWare 16 for rufus, winsetupusb, yumiits okay, https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_mYChRFanLEdyttDvT-cn6zH0o6KX7Th/view?usp=sharing. MD5: f424a52153e6e5ed4c0d44235cf545d5 The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: Please test this ISO file with VirtualMachine(e.g. I don't know why. The MISO_EFI partition contains only 1 folder called "efi" and another folder in it called "boot" which contains a single file called "bootx64.efi.". Sorry for my ignorance. check manjaro-gnome, not working. Did you test using real system and UEFI64 boot? I have this same problem. The user should be notified when booting an unsigned efi file. Let the user access their computer (fat chance they're going to remove the heatsink and thermal paste to see if their CPU was changed, especially if, as far as they are concerned, no change as occurred and both the computer appearance and behaviour are indistinguishable from usual). Mybe the image does not support X64 UEFI! Sign in The main issue is that users should at least get some warning that a bootloader failed SB validation when SB is enabled, instead of just letting everything go through. With ventoy, you don't need to format the disk over and over, you just need to copy the ISO/WIM/IMG/VHD (x)/EFI. Please refer github issue/1975, x86 Legacy BIOS, IA32 UEFI, x86_64 UEFI, ARM64 UEFI and MIPS64EL UEFI. la imagen iso,bin, etc debe ser de 64 bits sino no la reconoce Earlier (2014-2019) official GRUB in Ubuntu and Debian allowed to boot any Linux kernel, even unsigned one, in Secure Boot mode. 1.0.84 MIPS www.ventoy.net ===> I still don't know why it shouldn't work even if it's complex. These WinPE have different user scripts inside the ISO files. You can use these commands to format it: So I think that also means Ventoy will definitely impossible to be a shim provider. Best Regards. @pbatard, if that's what what your concern, that could be easily fixed by deleting grubia32.efi and grubx64.efi in /EFI/BOOT, and renaming grubia32_real.efi grubia32.efi, grubx64_real.efi grubx64.efi. 1. You can install Ventoy to USB drive, Removable HD, SD Card, SATA HDD, SSD, NVMe . The user could choose to run a Microsoft Windows Install ISO downloaded from the MS servers and Ventoy could inject a malicious file into it as it boots. Format XFS in Linux: sudo mkfs -t xfs /dev/sdb1, It may be related to the motherboard USB 2.0/3.0 port. https://abf.openmandriva.org/platforms/cooker/products/4/product_build_lists/3250 Intel Sunrise Point-LP, Intel Kaby Lake-R, @chromer030 Your favorite, APorteus was done with legacy & UEFI Yes, anybody can make a UEFI bootloader that chain loads unsigned bootloaders with the express purpose of defeating Secure Boot. error was now displayed in 1080p. If a user whitelists Ventoy using MokManager, it's because they want the Ventoy bootloader to run in a Secure Boot environment and want it to only chain load boot loaders that meet the Secure Boot requirements. ventoy.json should be placed at the 1st partition which has the larger capacity (The partition to store ISO files). No! So any method that allows users to boot their media without having to explicitly disable Secure Boot can be seen as a nice thing to have even if it comes at the price of reducing the overall security of one's computer. No. Hiren does not have this so the tools will not work. size: 589 (617756672 byte) fdisk: Create a primary partition with partition type EFI (FAT-12/16/32). Then I can directly add them to the tested iso list on Ventoy website. Ctrl+i to change boot mode of some ISOs to be more compatible Ctrl+w to use wimboot to boot Windows and WinPE ISOs (e.g. If your PC is unable to process Ventoy as bootable media, then you may need to disable secure boot. No, you don't need to implement anything new in Ventoy. It works for me if rename extension to .img - tested on a Lenovo IdeaPad 300. So, Fedora has shim that loads only Fedoras files. Yet, that is technically what Ventoy does if you enrol it for Secure Boot, as it makes it look like any bootloader, that wasn't signed by Microsoft, was signed by Microsoft. I will test it in a realmachine later. I don't remember exactly but it said something like it requires to install from an Installation media after the iso booted. Hi FadeMind, the woraround for that Problem with WinPE10_8_Sergei_Strelec_x86_x64_2019.12.28_English.iso is that you must copy the SSTR to the root of yout USB drive than all apps are avalaible. Even debian is problematic with this laptop. When user check the Secure boot support option then only run .efi file with valid signature is select.