Be sure your sin will find you out. (Numbers 32:23) Every leader needs a Nathan. I pray that the only intention of The Roys Report is to call for accountability among Christian leaders. Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? Unity does not come at the expense of truth and holiness as you are advocating. Ligonier Tours takes you to the places where significant events occurred, events that have shaped history. All meals and housing are provided in . Rape your kids, beat your spouse, commit crimes, go to the cops. Give him and us a break please! Perhaps your assumption that he canceled because of your article, is just a way for you to puff up your ego and draw attention to yourself. Too many Christians hide behind judge least ye be judged. He admitted to often being nude with his daughter. Yes, I understand the point. This is one of the problems with Elder-run churches.. Jesus is Lord. If you are a new Christian, you do not yet know that only a small percentage of pastors are of this quality today. If they did they would see how errant their idiotic stance of David Grays innocence really is and see him for what he is: a cold hearted serious criminal who deserves to be where he is right now. 2021 Winter Conference: Everyone's a Theologian. It has NO PLACE in the church or anywhere else. View our current career opportunities. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand. The examples you use in scripture do not support or justify how you do your reporting. 2) Why did not the church report the attempted murder, yes that is what he confessed to in writing, to the police. How would you counsel someone who struggles with unbelief / doubt [someone who lacks assurance]? And bigger picture, how many in authority operate. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. So your saying some of your past sins are protecting pedophiles and wife beaters and youve covered up people that committed those crimes? (Brad Schoolfield) Recently, news broke that Ligonier Ministries scheduled their 2022 National Conference at First Baptist Orlando, which concludes this weekend. [21m 38:30], Q7. Okay so I dont know who you are or what you believe. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. As was pointed out in this Roy report! Read More. A Conservative Christian Elder Board, to be most precise. A particular thought pattern now permeates our civic discourse: We dont have to believe what they say, because they are dishonest, unfair. You believe that the charges against Ravi Zacharias were petty and his victims hate God? I hope he will acknowledge his wrong and sin. Grace even helped Gray launch and run a ministry in the prison, called Grace Prison Fellowship. The leadership always sides with the predator. One of the best ways you can learn about a person or even an event is being thereto be on site. Q4. The predator has groomed the elders elders and the congregation even before selecting the victims. The traditionally conservative and Gospel-centered organization is called Ligonier because it was founded in Ligonier Valley, Pennsylvania in 1971 and it publishes the popular Table Talk Magazine, which is edited by Burk Parsons. Questions & Answers with Godfrey, Lawson, Nichols, Parsons, and Thomas. You are a follower of a cult leader. And this is a pattern for him. It is despicable. Sounds like we are still unreformed and have adopted Romes conception of the church as power structure. Sproul took a plea deal in that case which allowed him to avoid prison. Only by walking in the settled paths of God's Word can the church of Jesus Christ serve Him faithfully in a changing world. It was a 3-day conference. . At age 20, Eileen known to many by her previous, Hohn Cho, a lawyer and former elder at John MacArthurs Grace Community Church (GCC), accused the influential California megachurch of awful patterns. Hence, MacArthur and all his elders are accountable to the judgment in the Lord. All these gotcha websites, some of it is good and healthy, but some of it is just digging and digging. Julie simply reported what John and GCC did to Eileen. Due to his visibility, I believe his hubris has tarnished both. (Ive read other reports where photos of unrelated people (as students in school and now pastors) lambasted for offering to babysit. Sproul and exists to proclaim, teach, and defend the holiness of God in all its fullness to as many people as possible. Learn more: https://www.ligonier.org/about/. This is why the CCC sends representatives to conferences like this one. When a preacher, who doesnt meet those conditions, preaches from the pulpit even when he is biblically accurate but then fails to walk the walk and seems only able to talk the talk, he then fails to respect the very reason for being allowed to preach in the first place. Im not a follower of JM, but Im also not one to creat news where there is no news. People, specially older people do get sick. I guess they dont really believe what they preach. You can also keep these digital messages forever by purchasing the conference collection from the Ligonier store. You can literally walk in the footsteps of our heroes of the past, of Luther, of Calvin, of Jonathan Edwards. Even when there is an opportunity to fess up and give a truthful explanation as to why MacArthur will not be able to attend a scheduled event, they/he still gives excuses. I think Roys report did a pretty precise job of explaining the situationyou could always talk to David Gray, who is STILL LOCKED UP AND PAROLE DENIED!!!! In the process, may exposed charlatans move on to another grift in shame and dishonor. $ 99 off. 0:00 / 47:27 Introduction Questions & Answers with Kim, Lawson, MacArthur, and Nichols Ligonier Ministries 553K subscribers Subscribe 300K views 1 year ago #ligcon A questions and answers. He should be held to the same standards to which he holds everyone else. These men are wonderful brothers in the faith, many having decades long faithful ministries that have benefited an untold amount of believers.. In the 1 minute video below, you will get a sense of the Ligonier conference and of the speakers who answered the following questions: I linked the Q&A video of this post below, while you watch it, you should see other videos of the conference nearby. Sproul's new book. "You are the Ligonier story." As we entered our fiftieth year of ministry in 2021, that's what I shared with some of our ministry friends. I believe he is in his 80s now. Danny de Armas, the senior associate pastor, infamously offered a full-blown ecumenical statement devoid of any Gospel truth and antithetical to the teachings of Scripture by highlighting how many illegal immigrants, pro-choice demoncrats, and LGBTQ folkwere serving in his church. Phils response is certainly not biblical and nowhere close to being christian. Is the doctrine of election a primary doctrine? The cancellation comes after revelations that MacArthur had apparently promoted a convicted child abuser and shamed the abusers wife. The Calvinist Cadet Corps was present as an exhibitor at the 2021 Ligonier Ministries National Conference, March 18-20. Hey, Ive sinned too! I will try to write this as gently and respectfully as I can. For nearly 40 years, Johns teaching helped me become a faithful Christian in every respect. . The Ligonier app allows you to: Log in to access your purchased teaching series and conference messages Download audio messages for offline playback Cast video and audio to connected. Virtually every church (fundamental churches, evangelical churches, or liberal gatherings calling themselves churches, as well as synagogues and cults) handle child abuse allegations the pretty much the same way. This article has been updated to include information that MacArthur cancelled the event at Calvary Baptist Church due to family health issues. CITs: $50 for training + $80 / Week Base Rate. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. Tom Gardiana, folks have been looking for MacArthurs repentance, but it is yet to be found. Shes not acting as a church member, she acting as an investigative journalist doing a paid job from a secular standpoint looking at what goes on in the church. Thats why these thing matter in his case. Prison. Reply. However, we then discovered a post on Facebook post indicating MacArthur was cancelling a speaking engagement at Calvary Baptist Church in Dothan, Alabama, due to health issues. The child molester has learned the language and the customs of the church and has figured out the logic and the value system and theology of the elders. And remember he and his wife were resting during their absence from the pulpit when it came out later that they actually had the Covid virus. When the NT was written and the rules of how to handle things via the church, there were no law enforcement agencys. He is very prideful, if he was truly humble he would apologise to the woman, that he shamed. I never knew who he voted for, but now Im told Im not even a Christian if I didnt vote the way he wanted me to. Opinion: John MacArthurs Church Let Her Down. To pretty much assume that it is an excuse may well be jumping to false conclusions. Records and eyewitnesses revealed that GCC told congregants that Gray was innocent and blamed his convictions on his ex-wife. However, I hoped he was trying to protect the credibility of Gods holy word, and the testimony of His church. He makes excuses because he is siding with the predator, David Gray. Announcing Our 2021 Conference in Detroit There is no end to the blessings that are ours in Jesus Christ. Hi. You will meet these figures in ways you have never met them before. No. Sproul Trusting God The Westminster Shorter Catechism with Sinclair Ferguson Question & Answer 95 Valley Of Vision The Personal Touch Ask RC Church and the Culture Show Me Your Glory Learn More Music That is totally taking scripture out of context. I know that kindness and acts of service towards me by Christians, along with clear preaching of the Gospel from the Book of Romans are what compelled me to seek and trust the Lord. I will point out that there is a higher standard for those who are in ministry. There are always consequences for words and deeds, unfortunately Mr. Gray broke the law. Its scary to think every sin youve committed thirty years ago can be found out by sleuths. Total Codes. That said, vindictive comments from any side are beneath the calling of a Christian. Sitting at the table of fools seems to be a mainstay at GCC. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. This seems really weird. Trust God and pray for the truth to be known at any and all costs. CLARIFICATION: MacArthurs cancellation is apparently not due to his own illness. 27. Is this man so far above everyone that he must be protected and given such a level of loyalty that he cannot be perceived as even being capable of making a mistake? I agree we are all sinners and I agree I would not want my past exposed. Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.James 3:1. The Apostle James provides some of Scriptures clearest guidance on how Christians should both hear what God has revealed and do what His Word commands. June 28, 2021 at 6:51 pm. why didnt Ligonier take a stand against FBO as well? He also comes across as extremely hypocritical, like a true Pharisee, when he preaches about biblical qualifications women not being allowed to preach, for example but then doesnt meet the biblical standard to preach himself. Sproul's new book. The one thing I will never question is that my faith is Anchored in God alone no man, ministry, church or Denomination will change my faith. Thank you Cherul Unruh for being brave enough to say so. You use 1 Tim 5:20 as justification to take these matters public, but come on, we both know when it says everyone it is in the context of everyone in the church not the world at large. Didnt he and his wife also have Covid and kept that a secret? If Julie Roys found out about them, yikes. Thank you Debra Howard well said and i too have the same thoughts the Julie Roys ministry is important. Since the Lord does not change in turbulent times, we must live courageously and without compromise for His eternal truth.} Have you read the hand written confession David Gray gave to GCC? And he also lied and said that he was sick, when clearly he wasnt, because he went golfing. The Roys Report reached out to MacArthur for comment but did not immediately hear back. Did you assume you were being told the truth about resting for the conference when he had covid? I love him and his great skills as an Expositor, and I respect him for that, but he needs to come clean on these matters. There wasnt just one incident of acting horrible and then it was over. This is one of the problems with Elder-run churches. Christs apostle Paul did not instruct, let her remain shamed away from the church.. In a statement released by Ligonier Ministries on Monday, the organization said the younger Sproul was removing himself from ministry for "personal reasons" but made no mention of his arrest. 9K views, 289 likes, 119 loves, 13 comments, 90 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Ligonier Ministries: The third and final day of our National Conference has come to a close. (Note, conflict and celebrity are 2 of the 7 elements of newsworthiness.). These men took 9 questions which are noted below. Sproul and Ligonier in their lives. I know this from personal experience. The more you study your Bible, the more you will come to appreciate such pastors. MacArthur CLEARLY verbally attacked the people protesting the nazis at Charlottesville but totally mitigated and exonerated the nazis and alt right white nationalists who murdered Heather Hyer. 16:13). Thats totally anti-Biblical. It is wrong. 16:13). Live from Pittsburgh, watch our t. The Bible wouldnt lay out the qualifications for preaching if it were not that important. We as men of Christ know how the devil will use media in an attempt to strip John MacArthur of everything he has done in total comittance in his life long dedicated life in our Holy Triune God, through the seminary, as well as Grace church. Real simple. I am praying for draining the swamp of hypocrisy and lies of MacArthur and others. Hes taken the job and the money and is accountable. His inability to admit he was wrong and reach out to the victims in this case should rightfully be called out.. We will also host a pre-conference event titled Global Missions. That is the part that is, as you put it, scary. 2023 Dates and Fees Ligonier Camp & Conference Center 2023 Dates and Tuition Classic Camp Note that Classic Camp sessions end on FRIDAY. The Ligonier Conference 2021was titled Right Now Counts Forever. Leadership Positions: Summer salary based on position & experience. I was never comfortable with the way he publicly corrected others, including RC Sproul. How strange in this case the government got it right, and the Elders leading the local church got it wrong. Dont forgettomorrow is the last day to save 50% on admission to the 2022 National Conference in Orlando. Julie Roys alluding that it may be otherwise doesnt make it fact. Sounds to me like youre a God hater? Julies reporting is biblically sound. Be among the first to get R.C. Yeah Julie. The GCC website, under the About tab, has one webpage listing for Leadership and a different webpage listing (current) Elders with very little overlap. You realize that he and the whole of GCC have been supporting him since 2001, right? John MacArthur, however, is a constant at the top of both groups. Since no one else shares the same title of Pastor/ Teacher as John there, it is prudent to conclude that John MacArthur is without equal at GCC and functions as the de facto senior pastor. Jesus made the pattern very clear. Live from our National Conference, John MacArthur speaks on the eternal significance of God's holiness and how He has made His people holy in Christ. And it may not. Soon, we will cut off everybody because everyone is connected to someone in a way. Now, for some reason, hes the expert and the medical community is part of some world order that has misled us on Covid-19 for evil purposes!?! Join us on November 1213, 2021, for our conference in Detroit. All of this is spinning out of control, w/everyones comments & personal opinions. You know, it is certainly possible that he is indeed sick. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. Sproul, and considered the calling of every . Ephesians 5:11-13 says Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. He lumps everything together into one gospel called lordship salvation and tells you, if you havent laid down your life to christ and you still have sin in your life, then you should question your salvation. Assuming that the same person will have these very different skills would seem to be a foundational error in many cases. The Christian character and witness of Pastor John Macarthur is well known. MacArthur does not know the verse, it says: Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him and said to King Jehoshaphat, Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the Lord and so bring wrath on yourself from the Lord? (2 Chronicles 19:2). If you should want to look at the video titles of all the events of the conference, just search Ligonier Conference 2021 and they will be listed. Knowing all that has been done for us in union with Christ, we can more clearly see how the gospel informs every aspect of our lives, directing us to serve the Lord faithfully today. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Adjectives must be preserved, even at the expensive of following Christs word to the letter. However, a church where MacArthur also was slated to speak in March has stated MacArthur is cancelling its engagement due to family health issues.. Any public rebuke was done in front of believers and were written to believers. Sinclair Ferguson, W. Robert Godfrey, Joel Kim, Steven Lawson, John MacArthur . It is not fair to assume that we know that for sure at this time. Churches are to be pastored by the group of co-equal, older men (elders) of a church who meet the qualifications of bishop, 1 Timothy 3:1-7, Titus 1:5-9. I say, keep workin and knock yourselves out. Ive done things Im not proud of, but most people dont have the power, celebrity, influence, and even adoration that John MacArthur has. Your joys, pains, sacrifices, and triumphs last for a moment before disappearing forev If you are nothing more than a cosmic accident, your life doesn't matter. Join us on September 24-25, 2021, for A Continuing Reformation, a two-day conference in Pittsburgh, PA. As we examine essential truths of Scripture championed in the Protestant Reformation, we'll be encouraged to stand with greater conviction on the immovable . CRN offers a lifeline to conservative people of faith who are disgusted with Facebook, Twitter and the MSM for failing to report, even blocking, important news stories that dont comport with the far lefts narrative. Robert Godfrey: The Necessity of Christhttps://bit.ly/3a3eTw0Music:Solar Flares - Caleb Etheridgehttps://filmpac.com/product/FMAAA1833/ Click Bait on the headline! Eileen Taylors 20-year-old self could never have imagined her life today. **Rom 14:4 Who are you to judge anothers servant? Must a person forsake his sins to come to Christ? You are blessed to expose the charlatans of the church like MacArthur. Instead, it reads as gotcha journalism and bias on the site. God bless you, Julie, dear sister. Gray admitted that he beat his kids on the heads and feet with a rod and belt, with his knee on their backs! Q5. Not before an unbelieving world 20 yrs later. I am praying for the new leadership of Grace Community Church to stop fueling hate against women and other brethren. As R.C. It is sad, but this isnt looking good for anyone involved, especially believers. Stream for Free: Right Now Counts Forever Stream all of the messages from last week's 2021 National Conference for free on Ligonier.org, the Ligonier app, and YouTube. Joyce, And that it doesnt cost us anything, its a GIFT FREELY received by those who BELIEVE. The Roys Report is doing a unique and vital work exposing sin and lack of accountability in religious gatherings. Point blank, period, end of discussion. There is a question of whos work? For someone who believe that their action were right and just, they sure dont seem to be very forthcoming with an explanation. Back in the 90s during the unjustified beating of Rodney King, MacArthur and GCC coddled and tried to hide the Police Officers that were later tried and convicted of violating Kings Civil Rights , and it caused a lot of People to lose respect and trust in MacArthur. **1 Cor 6:6 But brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers! No one really knows FACTS. Togeth. But dont say that we dont know the story. Our 2021 Winter Conference, commemorating the fiftieth anniversary of Ligonier Ministries, will celebrate Dr. Sproul's life and legacy, examining the central themes he proclaimed as he strove to help every Christian become a better theologian. Its the 21st century. How can one grow in the fear of God and decrease in the fear of man? Together, we commemorated the fiftieth anniversary of Ligonier Ministries, celebrated the ministry of our founder and first president, Dr. R.C. [38:30 40:30], Q8 and 9. Absolutely correct. Q2. John MacArthur has pulled out of the Ligonier 2022 Conference. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? 13:8). This was alarming due to the recently exposed heretical teachings espoused by First Baptist. 2022 National Conference: Upholding Christian Ethics 9,280 views Mar 20, 2021 222 Dislike Share Save Ligonier Ministries 447K subscribers The holy character of God is the absolute standard. Some people heard about Cadets for the first time and were surprised to learn that the Cadets ministry has been around since 1952. Cheryl, very reasonable response by you. To shame and reject an abused wife and her abused children is reprehensible behavior and it is especially so when the one doing the shaming is an influential church leader. 1 Peter 5:8-11 NKJV Why are they so angry when they are being held to account , when asked to walk the talk ? "Since I did not have a local church during the lockdown, it was tough to grow spiritually, but I continued to grow in my faith because of Ligonier's articles, videos, and podcasts. This story will not go away. https://julieroys.com/pastor-alves-accused-grooming-girls-still-ministry/. I was thinking the same thing. Stream all of the messages from last weeks 2021 National Conference for free on Ligonier.org, the Ligonier app, and YouTube. No One Knows. Spanning the scope of salvation from election to future glory, the first chapter of Ephesians re There is no end to the blessings that are ours in Jesus Christ. 4) I am so disappointed that John has not responded to this very important happening. Ligonier 2021 Pittsburgh Conference. All his friends will be asked their opinions about this putting them on the spot to address what John should have addressed but was too prideful to do so. We know enough of the story to call a man to repentance. The world around us is constantly changing, yet Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever (Heb. October 21. Part of the problem is he is perhaps self-perceived, and certainly perceived by others as a leader. As you seem so keen for Christians to hold one another accountable, why didnt GCC hold criminal abuser David Grays accountable? John has always followed scripture with law & gospel. Think what you want, I choose to keep my eyes on my Lord and get my truth from the living Gods Book about man and information that actually corresponds to reality. Ligonier Ministries is the teaching fellowship of R.C. Ding!) Now about your sins that may or may not need the police to review!!!! Considering the horrors that the victim in this story was put through by her husband, as well as by John MacArthur and his henchmen, wouldnt you like to see at least some indication of MacArthur having a contrite spirit about this? John, Phil and the likes all presume to be teachers. So, generally speaking, this is what Ive come to expect from this site. Our 2023 National Conference will encourage us to stand firm on the everlasting doctrines of the Christian faith (1 Cor. On September 18, 2021, Ligonier Ministries and RBC hosted Always Ready, a one-day apologetics youth conference to provide an overview of key issues in apologetics and give answers to some of the most common attacks on the Christian faith. He needs to be biblically qualified and he isnt. You have to realize at some point that God is in this grand illumination of corruption in the American Christian big business machine so HE can be truly honored and glorified. They continually chose to support an abuser over the victims of that abuse, even after the abuser admitted to his own abuse AND was found guilty in a court of law. Unfortunately w Steve Lawson so entrenched in both MacArthur and Ligonier ministries I have to break from both. JM, even though hes got poor taste in watches (understated is best: Patek Phillippe Calatrava, for instance, can be had quite cheaply), he is not a leader and should tell his congregation so: he is a servant of the church, as are we all. The 3-minute video of John MacArthur himself introducing the subject and pronouncing judgment upon Eileen with all comment closed off by the immediate serving of communion with singing is sufficient knowledge of the story to know that is not the Bible way to handle the situation of a woman separating from her husband. Friday evening, Ligonier Ministries responded to a request for comment, saying: Thank you for your inquiry. I really dont know the whole story and neither do you! The problem with this particular sin, is its a crime so it is not about digging. Ligonier Ministries is an international Christian discipleship organization founded by theologian Dr. R.C. I have no idea what youre referring to with the reference to people offering to babysit being lambasted. There is no mention of anything close to that in our article.